As reported by various media outlets, the Zaidi Giants signed LHP Drew Pomeranz to a $1.5M contract, with extensive roster and performance bonuses that, if all are earned, would push his salary to $5M. He's now slated for the starting rotation - though it was noted by Zaidi that he has experience relieving as well - giving the Giants three known and expected starters - Bumgarner, Holland, and Pomeranz - and many options for the other two positions: Samardzija, Rodriquez, Suarez, and Stratton, plus potentially Blach and Anderson, and perhaps Adon, depending on how he's used.
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Showing posts with label 6-man rotation. Show all posts
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Tuesday, January 29, 2019
Tuesday, September 18, 2018
Your 2019 Giants: 6 Man Rotation
With my thoughts in my other post about the potential rotation crunch in 2019, should the Giants sign Derek Holland (as I hope that they do), I realized that perhaps there is a solution: 6-man Rotation.
Monday, August 03, 2015
Your 2015 Giants: The August Gauntlet
{Note: I had this written up for publication before Friday's game, but then the Leake trade happened. Apologies in advance for any numbers not updated to current figures as of publication, I'll update where I can.}
Every year, the Giants have a schedule full of games in August, leaving only two days off the whole month. That's why I've been suggesting a modified 6-man rotation during this period, to give our SP regular rest. This season, people are also worried because the Giants are facing teams who are all contenders: Rangers, Braves, Cubs, Astros, Nationals, Cards, Pirates, Dodgers, during the month of August (only the Braves are too far out of a playoff spot). That would be 27 out of 30 are contenders. Plus 18 of 30 (I'm including the Rangers first game of the series) are on the road.
The following was a comment I posted on Raising Matt Cain, and expanded (as I am wont to do) because I tweak. Plus, then, you know, the Leake trade happened, so this post got delayed to today instead, with some final tweaks.
Every year, the Giants have a schedule full of games in August, leaving only two days off the whole month. That's why I've been suggesting a modified 6-man rotation during this period, to give our SP regular rest. This season, people are also worried because the Giants are facing teams who are all contenders: Rangers, Braves, Cubs, Astros, Nationals, Cards, Pirates, Dodgers, during the month of August (only the Braves are too far out of a playoff spot). That would be 27 out of 30 are contenders. Plus 18 of 30 (I'm including the Rangers first game of the series) are on the road.
The following was a comment I posted on Raising Matt Cain, and expanded (as I am wont to do) because I tweak. Plus, then, you know, the Leake trade happened, so this post got delayed to today instead, with some final tweaks.
Monday, June 22, 2015
Your 2015 Giants: Rotation Judgement Day
Per the beat writers, the Giants brain trust are spending this off day to discuss the pitching rotation for the near future, when Peavy and Cain come off the DL (Peavy's 30-day rehab is over, so he should be back by weekend; Cain probably one or two rehab starts away, Sabean gave a good report on his last MiLB start).
Tuesday, May 17, 2011
Zito Quandary Yields Vogelsong Solution: Six Man Rotation
The success of Ryan Vogelsong encouraged the champagne dreams of some Giants fans that Barry Zito would be released of his contract to allow Vogelsong to continue as the fifth starter. While I love Vogelsong, I neither want to lose him nor see a still useful asset like Zito simply tossed away: while Zito is not worth his salary, neither is he worth nothing, as he is still producing good value if he is pitching like he did the past two seasons with the Giants. The only way the Giants release him is if he's still throwing at 83 MPH and isn't effective in the majors anymore. My proposed solution is one that I had advocated in the past for the Giants: going with a six man rotation.
There are numerous benefits to the six-man rotation. First of all, it allows the Giants to keep Vogelsong in the rotation when Zito returns. However, that would mean the Giants would have to DFA Moto to make space for Zito and Vogelsong. Not that I view that as a huge loss, but he's been good so far this season.
Second, it allows the Giants to keep their pitchers on a similar schedule as the early season when starters got six days of rest when there was five starters and a day off. Teams seem to like that regularity early on, and
Third, it would reduce the pitching load on our playoff starters' arms, a concern since the off-season began. For example, if Zito is back in around a month, say, Monday June 20, after 72 games played, that leaves 90 games left. For a 5-man rotation, that is 18 starts each, but for a 6-man rotation, that reduces the load to 15 starts each. At that point, the playoff starters would have 15 starts roughly. Going to a 6-man rotation would reduce their currently expected 33 starts and 200-210 IP to 30 starts and 180-190 IP. And there are 8 days off in that stretch, so if you skip Vogelsong's turn 5 times, that adds one start to each, making it 31 starts and 185-195 IP.
Fourth, significant to me is the number of pitches a starter throws in a season. The PAP theorists rightly pointed out a problem with previous usage of starters but with most managers hewing to the 100 pitch limit, that battle is basically won. Something I've been writing about for a number of years is the overall usage of a starter's arm in terms of pitches thrown in a season.
Admittedly, I eyeballed the stats, but a nice annual, The Graphical Pitcher, provided the number of pitches thrown data on a graph vs. their proprietary measure of a pitcher's contribution, and, except for Roger Clemens and Randy Johnson, I noticed that within 0-2 years of a pitcher reaching roughly 3,500 pitches in a season, that pitcher's value metric fell drastically for whatever reason, whether injury or lack of performance. Of course, that is not scientific, but I note this because Lincecum and Cain have been above that in recent years and went way over with the playoffs last season.
Fifth, as long as Vogelsong pitches reasonably well, it does not matter much that the great starters gave up starts, as long as Vogelsong pitches well enough for the lineup to win with his performance. He has been great so far, but one must remember that he couldn't even survive pitching in AAA last season for two teams looking for simply adequate starting pitching. The wheel could fall off for him and some time soon.
However, I don't think so. He has been pitching great so far, striking out a lot while not walking many. That is not an easy thing to do. In addition, in four starts, he has three DOM starts and one DIS start (75%/25%), which is excellent.
He has been very lucky with his BABIP, .247, and the vast majority of pitchers regress to the .300 mean. So things will get worse at some point as the hits catch up with him. But if he can maintain that K/BB ratio and strikeout rate up above 2.0 and 6.0 respectively (currently at 3.0 and 8.1), he should be adequate in taking away starts from the playoff starters and not have the team experience a deep drop in performance relatively.
And with the other NL West teams not doing so well, which was what I expected this season, the Giants could focus more on getting through the season healthy and fresh, with a minimum of stress on their playoff pitchers instead of focusing on making the playoffs. Going with a 6-man rotation would accomplish this. And if they should fall too far behind, they could always move Vogelsong (or even Zito if performance warrants) into the long-relief role and go full throttle again.
Now, the Giants could simply move Vogelsong into the bullpen and become the long reliever. However, at the moment, the Giants are on pace for having their playoff starters match the number of games started and thus IP roughly from last season. An issue noted for the Giants during the offseason is whether the pitchers can hold up after pitching so many extra innings in 2010 due to the playoff games pitched.
Going with a 6-man rotation would reduce the number of starts they would have had this season by roughly the number of starts they probably would see in the playoffs, three. Thus, instead of starting 33 games during the season plus 3-5 starts during the playoffs, a 6-man rotation could reduce that to 30 starts during the season plus 3-5 starts during the playoffs.
That helps in a number of ways. One, starters will be fresher deeper into the season and playoffs. Remember, Jonathan Sanchez petered out in the playoffs. Two, you put less strain on the young arms, hoping to avoid problems in the future. Three, this gives the manager flexibility in adjusting the rotation as needed during the season, to get our top pitchers, Tim Lincecum and Matt Cain, pitching against the teams we want to beat within our division.
Overall, there are many benefits to going to a 6-man rotation. Chief is removing stress on the arms of the young pitchers and improving their chances of a long and healthy career. But it also means that they will be fresher in the playoffs than other playoff teams' starters, both pitchers and hitters. In addition, it allows the Giants to keep him in the rotation when Zito returns. And, should he revert to career trends at some point, they could just return back to the 5-man rotation, riding out Vogelsong's hot streak.
There are numerous benefits to the six-man rotation. First of all, it allows the Giants to keep Vogelsong in the rotation when Zito returns. However, that would mean the Giants would have to DFA Moto to make space for Zito and Vogelsong. Not that I view that as a huge loss, but he's been good so far this season.
Second, it allows the Giants to keep their pitchers on a similar schedule as the early season when starters got six days of rest when there was five starters and a day off. Teams seem to like that regularity early on, and
Third, it would reduce the pitching load on our playoff starters' arms, a concern since the off-season began. For example, if Zito is back in around a month, say, Monday June 20, after 72 games played, that leaves 90 games left. For a 5-man rotation, that is 18 starts each, but for a 6-man rotation, that reduces the load to 15 starts each. At that point, the playoff starters would have 15 starts roughly. Going to a 6-man rotation would reduce their currently expected 33 starts and 200-210 IP to 30 starts and 180-190 IP. And there are 8 days off in that stretch, so if you skip Vogelsong's turn 5 times, that adds one start to each, making it 31 starts and 185-195 IP.
Fourth, significant to me is the number of pitches a starter throws in a season. The PAP theorists rightly pointed out a problem with previous usage of starters but with most managers hewing to the 100 pitch limit, that battle is basically won. Something I've been writing about for a number of years is the overall usage of a starter's arm in terms of pitches thrown in a season.
Admittedly, I eyeballed the stats, but a nice annual, The Graphical Pitcher, provided the number of pitches thrown data on a graph vs. their proprietary measure of a pitcher's contribution, and, except for Roger Clemens and Randy Johnson, I noticed that within 0-2 years of a pitcher reaching roughly 3,500 pitches in a season, that pitcher's value metric fell drastically for whatever reason, whether injury or lack of performance. Of course, that is not scientific, but I note this because Lincecum and Cain have been above that in recent years and went way over with the playoffs last season.
Fifth, as long as Vogelsong pitches reasonably well, it does not matter much that the great starters gave up starts, as long as Vogelsong pitches well enough for the lineup to win with his performance. He has been great so far, but one must remember that he couldn't even survive pitching in AAA last season for two teams looking for simply adequate starting pitching. The wheel could fall off for him and some time soon.
However, I don't think so. He has been pitching great so far, striking out a lot while not walking many. That is not an easy thing to do. In addition, in four starts, he has three DOM starts and one DIS start (75%/25%), which is excellent.
He has been very lucky with his BABIP, .247, and the vast majority of pitchers regress to the .300 mean. So things will get worse at some point as the hits catch up with him. But if he can maintain that K/BB ratio and strikeout rate up above 2.0 and 6.0 respectively (currently at 3.0 and 8.1), he should be adequate in taking away starts from the playoff starters and not have the team experience a deep drop in performance relatively.
And with the other NL West teams not doing so well, which was what I expected this season, the Giants could focus more on getting through the season healthy and fresh, with a minimum of stress on their playoff pitchers instead of focusing on making the playoffs. Going with a 6-man rotation would accomplish this. And if they should fall too far behind, they could always move Vogelsong (or even Zito if performance warrants) into the long-relief role and go full throttle again.
Now, the Giants could simply move Vogelsong into the bullpen and become the long reliever. However, at the moment, the Giants are on pace for having their playoff starters match the number of games started and thus IP roughly from last season. An issue noted for the Giants during the offseason is whether the pitchers can hold up after pitching so many extra innings in 2010 due to the playoff games pitched.
Going with a 6-man rotation would reduce the number of starts they would have had this season by roughly the number of starts they probably would see in the playoffs, three. Thus, instead of starting 33 games during the season plus 3-5 starts during the playoffs, a 6-man rotation could reduce that to 30 starts during the season plus 3-5 starts during the playoffs.
That helps in a number of ways. One, starters will be fresher deeper into the season and playoffs. Remember, Jonathan Sanchez petered out in the playoffs. Two, you put less strain on the young arms, hoping to avoid problems in the future. Three, this gives the manager flexibility in adjusting the rotation as needed during the season, to get our top pitchers, Tim Lincecum and Matt Cain, pitching against the teams we want to beat within our division.
Overall, there are many benefits to going to a 6-man rotation. Chief is removing stress on the arms of the young pitchers and improving their chances of a long and healthy career. But it also means that they will be fresher in the playoffs than other playoff teams' starters, both pitchers and hitters. In addition, it allows the Giants to keep him in the rotation when Zito returns. And, should he revert to career trends at some point, they could just return back to the 5-man rotation, riding out Vogelsong's hot streak.
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