tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23735245.post8930576917564196060..comments2024-02-23T20:49:09.057-08:00Comments on obsessivegiantscompulsive: 2017 Giants Draft Picksobsessivegiantscompulsivehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/11362706004246875823noreply@blogger.comBlogger8125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23735245.post-18226394743819147092017-07-07T16:52:12.036-07:002017-07-07T16:52:12.036-07:00Nurse also appears to be on the younger side for h...Nurse also appears to be on the younger side for his class, which according to a draft study by BP, tends to outperform (but, of course, the study was only of top drafted prospects, not prospects like Nurse who wasn't ranked nor was drafted high, just higher than expected).obsessivegiantscompulsivehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11362706004246875823noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23735245.post-47569358572721178672017-07-07T16:44:00.933-07:002017-07-07T16:44:00.933-07:00Thanks for the update!
Looking at the link, got...Thanks for the update! <br /><br />Looking at the link, got another update, the Giants signed RHP Connor Nurse for $250K. He's not ranked, but Daryl Zero posted Nurse's Perfect Game article which was pretty interesting, he worked with John Denny, who was his coach, and who was a former major leaguer for the Cards, Phillies, among other teams. Won Cy Young once, even. <br /><br />Good guy to learn from, Denny was decidedly a pitch to poor contact type of pitcher, much in the mold of Matt Cain. Once he figured out how to do that in the majors, he had a .275 BABIP over 9 seasons. <br /><br />Denny was kind of wild, with high BB/9, but that probably means that he pitched like Rueter did, biting at the corners in order to induce poor contact, but getting a lot of balls called, and not that many strikeouts, even for that era. But he had a 3.46 ERA over that period, 108 ERA+, which is good, but not great. <br /><br />The key is whether Nurse learned to pitch like that, while retaining the ability to blow away hitters with his fastball/curve combo, as his curve is considered to be good enough to be a hammer. We'll see what the Giants can do with him, but I'm pretty excited about getting him.<br /><br />The only question I have is, since he seems like a good prospect, and even got $250,000, why he was not ranked on Baseball America's Top 500 rank. $250K would put him around the end of the fifth round in terms of slot money, which would put him in the Top 175 in terms of talent, if bonus paid represented talent (which one would hope there is some correlation). Perhaps the Giants saw something others did not. We'll see.<br /><br />The only other draftee past the 10th round to get more than the $125K was Frank Tostado, round 19, RF.obsessivegiantscompulsivehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11362706004246875823noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23735245.post-26588153326812316102017-06-30T10:30:32.550-07:002017-06-30T10:30:32.550-07:00Top 28 all signed, save for one. Four more signed...Top 28 all signed, save for one. Four more signed of the remaining dozen. That record gives one the sense that the Giants got pretty much everyone that they cared to get.campanarinoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23735245.post-79875527658619751572017-06-26T07:25:05.115-07:002017-06-26T07:25:05.115-07:00First, thank you for updating me on the new max wi...First, thank you for updating me on the new max without penalty amount starting with round 11. I missed that! And appreciate your bringing it up.<br /><br />I guess my point is that it is significant when the Giants sign anyone starting with round 11 at the max without penalty, and so I wanted to point them out as prospects to watch going forward. <br /><br />I agree that Gavin will sign for those reasons. From what I recall, he is busy with college World Series right now, which is why he hasn't signed yet. I think the same happened with Beede too. <br /><br />Thanks again.obsessivegiantscompulsivehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11362706004246875823noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23735245.post-82065528846156985482017-06-25T20:42:12.040-07:002017-06-25T20:42:12.040-07:00On the $125,000 signings where you are surprised t...On the $125,000 signings where you are surprised to see the Giants over slot, ogc: these later drafts had a $100,000 slot till this year, but it's $125K this year, I believe. These signings are at slot. As to the number signed, Warren and Winn I believe remain unsigned, but Still has now signed, and the press reported that Gavin was ecstatic to have been drafted by the Giants--he's a lifelong Giants fan--so I'd imagine we'll see him signed shortly. Going by the reports, we should now have 26 out of the first 28 draftees signed or (Gavin) on the verge of doing so.campanarinoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23735245.post-58468268782447347062017-06-24T22:37:55.520-07:002017-06-24T22:37:55.520-07:00Frankly, as I told people at other sites, the draf...Frankly, as I told people at other sites, the draft is such a huge crapshoot, but yeah, I guess it does fill the farm system some with tradeable pieces. We are getting a lot of relievers, perhaps the Giants might be trading some to the right teams willing to give up really good pieces for them. <br /><br />Like Dyson, if he can return to closer goodness, he could bring in a nice haul. Though having him as set up for the rest of Melancon's contract would be great too. Perhaps that frees the Giants up to trade Strickland, who got Morse concussed (luckily it wasn't the other way around with the Shark out with a concussion. Also Kontos might bring a pretty prospect as well, as well as Guerrin. <br /><br />Nunez probably will be a traded piece who might return next year via free agency. And I don't see how Cueto will stick around with this season and teams needing a good to great starter, and who has already been rumored to have said that he was opting out, no matter what. <br /><br />Together with these trades, and the draft, the Giants will have a nice infusion of talent that will help them rebuild while reloading. <br /><br />The problem is our hitters have not been hitting well enough, overall, so maybe we'll be picking up someone next season. Which probably means an OF will be going, either Span or Pence. obsessivegiantscompulsivehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11362706004246875823noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23735245.post-89737820733696777942017-06-24T22:29:51.610-07:002017-06-24T22:29:51.610-07:00Typical Giants haul, signing most of their top pic...Typical Giants haul, signing most of their top picks, but it seems better than usual, getting 21 of the top 25. Would have to check to be sure. <br /><br />Two interesting signings: Aaron Bond for $125,000 (12th round pick) and Orlando Garcia also for $125,000 (15th round pick). Uses up $50,000 of the 5% margin above their slots before penalties. <br /><br />Also interesting, Seth Corry almost got double his slot, in fact, he ended up signing for more than Jacob Gonzalez did. Of course, Corry was rated above Gonzalez per MLB Pipeline, 105th vs. 125th. <br /><br />Both Ramos and Gonzalez continue the trend under Sabean of drafting way ahead of ranking, Ramos 19th but 40th rank, Gonzalez 58th but 125th ranking.<br /><br />Corry, Cave, and Johnson continue the trend under Barr of drafting players higher ranked around the draft pick, and in some cases, guys who fell a lot, like Cave, ranked 88th, better than Gonzalez and Corry, but selected after them, with 126th pick. <br /><br />Warren is another amateur to fall a lot, he was good enough to get a profile blurb of a scouting report, something that petered out after around the 200 top ranked players. He was selected with pick 516.obsessivegiantscompulsivehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11362706004246875823noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23735245.post-34928782023245571792017-06-24T20:10:37.680-07:002017-06-24T20:10:37.680-07:00Of the top 25, only four--Gavin, Still, Warren, an...Of the top 25, only four--Gavin, Still, Warren, and Winn--remain unsigned, apparently. I suppose that this influx of talent into the farm system, making deals easier, will begin to help us recover from the strange, unshakable humiliations of the past year, i.e., since the A-S break 2016. God knows, we are likely to have a prime draft position and a huge pot of money to spend on draftees next year!Campanarinoreply@blogger.com