tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23735245.post8692952431330450908..comments2024-02-23T20:49:09.057-08:00Comments on obsessivegiantscompulsive: Your 2012 Giants are 94-68: NL West Division Champs, 2 of 3 Yearsobsessivegiantscompulsivehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/11362706004246875823noreply@blogger.comBlogger9125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23735245.post-35993781207480359462012-10-06T22:21:14.877-07:002012-10-06T22:21:14.877-07:00Ouch! Losing game one is really tough. Does not ...Ouch! Losing game one is really tough. Does not look good, this should have been our game when their starter left with injury, now we need to win three of four. Go Madison!obsessivegiantscompulsivehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11362706004246875823noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23735245.post-74496861560954435992012-10-06T13:41:11.488-07:002012-10-06T13:41:11.488-07:00Give up two top players to get two, as far as I ca...Give up two top players to get two, as far as I can tell, nobodies. No thank you.<br /><br />Have no problem with trades, but if I am giving up either of these players, the other team is giving me a huge, HUGE package of prospects for EACH of them, not just one apiece.obsessivegiantscompulsivehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11362706004246875823noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23735245.post-35732253131432869672012-10-06T06:48:46.376-07:002012-10-06T06:48:46.376-07:00If it's safe to speculate trades here, I will....If it's safe to speculate trades here, I will. I made an oath not to speculate until the postseason at Giants Extra. <br /><br />If I were Sabean...<br /><br />during the offseason, pickup a stud pitcher in Free Agency. I'd go Peavy, Haren, then Greinke in that order of preference based on a combination of ability, what's left in the tank and affordability. <br /><br />Okay, now you have 6 starters. When the free agents start to dry up, someone is going to knock on the door looking for one of our 6. Why yes, Lincecum is available. Seattle is going to be the one asking. They want to make a move. They saw what the A's did and now they want to be contenders. They need offense, they need another "top-line" pitcher to co-anchor the staff with Felix and help their top prospect pitchers. <br /><br />Package Lincecum, Sandoval and cash and try to get back Kyle Seager and a pitching prospect like James Paxton. I believe they have another 3B prospect in their system. Catricala? Sandoval would benefit from the DH. <br /><br />Just a flight of fancy perhaps.<br /><br />-FR<br /><br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23735245.post-17161316521563012182012-10-05T14:21:38.862-07:002012-10-05T14:21:38.862-07:00Thank you Richard! That is my goal, to be serious...Thank you Richard! That is my goal, to be serious and thoughtful, so I'm glad that you find it to be so. <br /><br />Yeah, those links are not going to happen. :^) I know I'm an acquired taste, and that's one of the beauties about blogs, I can be myself, for the most part. And I have had my dustups before, though I suppose that's not a big deal, Grant still kept his spot after his knee-jerk reaction to my comment in 2010 resulted in him removing my link off his site (ironically, in the re-do of that group's website, all the links are no longer there anyway, so it would have been gone by now anyway) and his half-hearted slap in the face apology afterward wasn't all that good either.<br /><br />That's OK, amazingly, a lot of readers get to me via MCC, ELM, or Bay City Ball, according to the Google Analytics. <br /><br />I will be sure to try to, thanks again.obsessivegiantscompulsivehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11362706004246875823noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23735245.post-7874294400965876932012-10-05T14:12:31.882-07:002012-10-05T14:12:31.882-07:00Good point about him being above average anywhere,...Good point about him being above average anywhere, based on his stats this year.<br /><br />My main thing is trying to find a spot for Posey, since he seems versatile, where he fills a team need while also being above average, and maximizing that value at the same time. 2B would ideally be that spot, but given his ankle, not a prudent one anymore. He can't play SS. 3B is next on the defensive spectrum, plus is an area of potential need given Pablo's continual weight issues.<br /><br />Yeah, that's my timetable too, next 3 years or so. By then, we should have our new starting catcher ready, whether Hector or Susac. <br /><br />I think Sandoval might get a long-term deal, but his weight issues do make him a greater liability. Still, 900+ OPS hitters are not falling off the vine readily, so I would advise doing all that we can to make him ready and useful before going the trade route. I think it would, to you point, behoove the Giants to keep the door open to trading him, but only if we get a package good enough that we can't say no. Given that Sabean has never made such a deal, I don't know if he is capable of one. For him, it's usually the other way, only he knows when he's got a good player and thus don't give them up at all.obsessivegiantscompulsivehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11362706004246875823noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23735245.post-2642577599934998172012-10-05T13:56:22.094-07:002012-10-05T13:56:22.094-07:00I covered this in a comment on MCC's post on t...I covered this in a comment on MCC's post on the Giants bullpen recently. Basically, if you look at the relievers the Giants are expected to include on the roster, versus the Reds, the Giants 7 - Casilla, Affedlt, Romo, Lopez, Kontos, Mijares, Mota - had an ERA of 2.67 (2.48 if Mota if left off) and the Reds key 8 relievers had an ERA of 2.62, very similar. Chapman has been extra good, but that don't matter if the Giants are in the lead already. Of course, that's not a given.<br /><br />Plus, we might have Vogelsong or Lincecum acting as relievers as well, that might tip the balance to us in the bullpen. (Though I'm confused, Lincecum says Bochy says he is in the rotation, and with Cain and Bumgarner lined up 1-2, that should mean Lincecum 3, but now Bochy says that the other starters might pitch in games 1-2 and thus 3 is in the air.<br /><br />Of course, that might be the point, to confuse the Reds about what the Giants are doing, in terms of relief. In any case, I like that Bochy is making a statement to his team that these two games are ultra important to win both. Go for the jugular Bruce!<br /><br />Hey, the Phillies looked like they were going to be tough too. And the Giants had no playoff experience either yet outperformed every team when it counted. <br /><br />As I've been learning and stating here on my blog, pitching is the key, and if our pitcher outpitches the other pitcher, then we'll be OK. <br /><br />With Cain and Bumgarner up 1-2, that's really all we can ask for, having two pitchers who, in their first go at the playoff had 21 shutout inning and an 8 inning shutout of the great offensive Texas team in the World Series, respectively. If that don't get it done, well, at least we gave it our best shot.obsessivegiantscompulsivehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11362706004246875823noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23735245.post-27208708484052997602012-10-05T10:42:11.694-07:002012-10-05T10:42:11.694-07:00Great post. Epic!
Posey is above average anywher...Great post. Epic!<br /><br />Posey is above average anywhere you put him. If you like RC+, he's over 50% above league average run production this year. <br /><br />It would be nice if he could move off the position within 3 years. With Belt looking proficient at first and Sandoval undisciplined at the plate and away from the yard, third base is a favorable destination. He'd be good there. Maybe not great, but good. The bat would be great wherever you put him. I don't see Sandoval getting a long term deal after this one is up - could be traded before you know it. <br /><br />Cheers!<br /><br />-Foothills Ryan<br /><br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23735245.post-33247216761272985472012-10-05T09:49:48.827-07:002012-10-05T09:49:48.827-07:00Neither side is stupid. The Giants are fully awar...Neither side is stupid. The Giants are fully aware of just how marketable and valuable Posey is. And Posey has to be pretty keen on sell outs and atmosphere, and winning. As long as the money gets put on the table, I think it gets done. Money is everything, and it is mutually beneficial. As the Gints have done everything right long term in the last year - sign Cain, sign MadBum, hedge Pablo and hedge Timmy... I expect a long term Posey lock up this offseason. <br /><br />I think his presence and the ease of pulling away this year demonstrates how completely he was missed last year. There are tune ups to the engine and then there is the engine itself. Huge cog for Los Gigantes. The pitching has been going strong since 2009. Adding Posey into the mix is the key to getting over that hump. BTW, the Gints finished 5th in BA and 8th in OBP, 12th in runs scored with 718. The offense was just fine. Pitching was 7th in ERA, 6th in QS, but a rather down 13th in ERA and 8th in BAA. (All stats from ESPN snapshot on clubhouse page). I always take those things with a grain of salt, but the huge criticism of "we haven't had a league average offense since 2005" and taking the MLB runs scored and listing off the late 20s rankings every year is a dead argument now. Sabean patched the offense just fine.<br /><br />We'll see how it goes. The Reds have a big advantage with their bullpen. They have good hitters, and good starters. This is going to be tough. The Phils shut them down quickly in 2010, they haven't had any playoff experience. We will see if the Gints experience is a factor or not. I believe it will be, time will tell.Shankbonehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04803824507120403397noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23735245.post-13667300198986214172012-10-05T06:48:28.329-07:002012-10-05T06:48:28.329-07:00Ogc; Again great post. I find your research and co...Ogc; Again great post. I find your research and comments to be so well thought out; that I would like to see your's and Drb's blogs linked from the Giants main web page. It to me is must read material for " Serious and thoughtful " Giants fans. Keep it up.Richard in Winnipegnoreply@blogger.com