tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23735245.post7379325083622334162..comments2024-02-23T20:49:09.057-08:00Comments on obsessivegiantscompulsive: Molina Teleconference and Sanchez Shoulder Surgeryobsessivegiantscompulsivehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/11362706004246875823noreply@blogger.comBlogger7125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23735245.post-40304091881526628302010-01-25T15:02:30.496-08:002010-01-25T15:02:30.496-08:00Well, Anon, ADD might be disproportionate to the o...Well, Anon, ADD might be disproportionate to the overall population, but have you considered that the MLB have professional trainers and doctors that these athletes have ready access to, while most regular folks would just suffer with ADD unknowingly until something makes them get it checked out?<br /><br />Also, do you know what amphetamines do? They don't make you better, per se, but they do allow you to be at your best all season long. Eyre's stats went up noticeably immediately, it was not a gradual thing, which would be true if his boost was only due to getting amphetamines, as the effects would only show up later in the season when you are "fresh" while non-users suffered typical fatigue. That is why I included Eyre in the list, his stats went up significantly once he went on it, which is not the effect one would get if it was simply a "speed" induced gain.<br />Lastly, just because many major leaguers might be abusing it does not mean that Eyre was, you have to examine each case separately instead of throwing everyone under the bus. <br /><br />Marc, I read the exact per diem info on Garrett Broshius's personal blog (Giants prospect) - I should include it on my list - plus have seen it mentioned here and there elsewhere. <br /><br />I assume as much about a physical trainer, else why have a special session last off-season for their top prospects? And why is Pablo working so hard this off-season, if there was a physical trainer with each team, he probably would have been working to keep his weight off for a long time now, he is an amazingly focused athlete, dedicated to getting better, just he didn't know the right things to do plus didn't get any guidance.<br /><br />We were lucky with him, his weight didn't get in the way of him reaching his potential but what about those who gain too much early on and could have been another Sandoval but just got too fat? What about Villalona, he was especially vulnerable, given all the money he had plus the weighty issue from the get-go as well (I assume Sandoval has been like this too since we got him).<br /><br />Maybe if the Giants were working with prospects early on Jerome Williams would not have eatten his way out of the majors and we might have a greater rotation with him in it, or perhaps he could have been traded away by now for a big cache of prospects instead of losing Aardsma too for a declining Latroy Hawkins. <br /><br />And it is not just Villalona, with the small per-diem plus young men out on their own for the first time, particularly those in the U.S. for the first time, as you note, they would live on pizza and beer, any local fast-food, and they won't be eatting Subway's veggie sandwiches.obsessivegiantscompulsivehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11362706004246875823noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23735245.post-23474053282640397142010-01-25T14:30:56.535-08:002010-01-25T14:30:56.535-08:00Did not say that ADD was not real, just that the d...Did not say that ADD was not real, just that the disproportionate number of MLB "sufferers" is questionable. <br /><br />Over twice the national average.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23735245.post-46457001954142895662010-01-25T14:12:55.968-08:002010-01-25T14:12:55.968-08:00Anonymous, you're a dork. ADD is very common i...Anonymous, you're a dork. ADD is very common in this world. Watch out for Scott Eyre's 150mph fastball!<br /><br />OGC, I've read somewhere else that same thing about the per diem - and in this day and age, no physical trainer? I know they can't chase the players around watching what they eat, but such simple things as having some oversight and (haha) checking their sight seems pretty damn obvious.<br /><br />I haven't read deeply about Sandoval, but I have read about our lost (alleged) gun-toting prospect - loved those fast food burgers. One has to remember these are kids - I was living on pizza and beer at 22. Fine if you live a normal life, but their window is pretty small.marcnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23735245.post-50380482036656505682010-01-25T10:50:05.093-08:002010-01-25T10:50:05.093-08:00That ADD thing with Eyre (and the other 60 or so p...That ADD thing with Eyre (and the other 60 or so players who claim to suffer from it) is a scam. It is their way to get Addoral, Ritalin, Dextroamphetamine, Concerta. i.e. performance enhancing amphetamines. Usually the fringe players.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23735245.post-20602338492633790142010-01-25T07:53:22.394-08:002010-01-25T07:53:22.394-08:00Thanks for the informed comment Rory!
Your commen...Thanks for the informed comment Rory!<br /><br />Your comment got me looking for info on-line.<br /><br />I found some info that supports what Rory says, like this one: http://mariners.scout.com/2/422181.html<br /><br />Says "labrum surgery is much more difficult to diagnose... The only way to properly diagnose a labrum tear is to perform exploratory surgery... "<br /><br />"But the list of successful returns of major league stars to the mound grows every season. ... A.J. Burnett ... Rafael Soriano ... But the labrum surgery has yet to become a part of the medical marvels as its fellow surgeries have done. The labrum cannot be rebuilt, is terriby complex to diagnose and just as difficult to avoid."<br /><br />http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/18469567<br /><br />This one can be interpreted positively regarding his return. This study looked at 42 MLB pitchers with labrum surgery. The conclusion was that "most pitchers who were able to return to competition after surgery showed insignificant changes in ERA and WHIP and significant decreases in IP." That means that they could return to their former level of rate production, but they could not keep it up for as long. <br /><br />That's a problem for starting pitchers, but not as big a problem for relief pitchers, which those authors noted. Thus, to my thinking, even smaller problem still for a 2B who throws even less than a relief pitcher would during a game.<br /><br />OK, so, as Anon noted above, maybe stuff happens sometimes, and apparently this labrum tear miss is one of them. I would also throw out there Scott Eyre's undiagnosed attention deficit disorder, the number of players who needed glasses but didn't get them until they were doing poorly for a while, and the lack of support for prospects while in the minor leagues: their per diem limits them to cheap takeout or fastfoods, there is no nutritional assistance, and I would bet that there is no physical trainer help, as I recall there was a special training session for top prospects in the first offseason when Neukom took over, which implies that there is no training during the season. <br /><br />Why not give that to everyone, it is not like the top prospects are guaranteed to make the majors (vast majority even fail to even reach the majors), perhaps with greater support in the minors, more of the back end of the draft might start making the majors with greater frequency?<br /><br />And how much would it really cost the Giants to institute such reforms in the minor league system? And without these other players, their top prospects would not get the experience they need to develop, they (all teams) owe these players for devoting their lives for a number of years that enables the starting players to eventually make the majors.<br /><br />And all the better if it helps some of them to get their official baseball card when without support, it wouldn't have happened. Plus maybe Sandoval would have handled his weight situation long ago instead of waiting until now and perhaps shortening his career due to weight problems.obsessivegiantscompulsivehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11362706004246875823noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23735245.post-39583175365421689352010-01-23T16:10:52.082-08:002010-01-23T16:10:52.082-08:00Labrum surgery is actually not as simple as some p...Labrum surgery is actually not as simple as some people think. I have gone through labrum surgery myself and can tell you first hand that it can result in a very finicky surgery. I've also read that it has one of the lowest percentage of successful returns for (Tommy John is much more successful). It does bode well that he doesnt pitch (obviously) and is only playing second as opposed to across the diamond. Last note... labrum tears are extremely hard to identify via MRI. They usually have to go in arthroscopically to see what's going on because the tear just doesnt show up.Roryhttp://www.paapfly.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23735245.post-30238442426345395362010-01-23T10:51:23.248-08:002010-01-23T10:51:23.248-08:00Alfonzo's back, Dave Roberts' chronic ailm...Alfonzo's back, Dave Roberts' chronic ailments, Ray Durham, fatty Molina passing his physical, diabetic issues with Jerome Williams, FSanchez, Lowry's rib and arm ailments, Bonds' knee infection, and even Trevor Wilson's botched surgery are probably in the "sh*t happens" category considering the sample size.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com