tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23735245.post700519061480766313..comments2024-02-23T20:49:09.057-08:00Comments on obsessivegiantscompulsive: Kawakami's Off On Riosobsessivegiantscompulsivehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/11362706004246875823noreply@blogger.comBlogger6125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23735245.post-71444165982452284802007-12-11T19:23:00.000-08:002007-12-11T19:23:00.000-08:00allfrank, I'm working on a response to Killion's a...allfrank, I'm working on a response to Killion's assertion. Thanks for your comments. <BR/><BR/>I will note here, though, that Sabean's targets are rarely, if ever (don't recall one but I'm sure there must have been a few over the years), publicized until they become fact.<BR/><BR/>Also, there's serious negotiations or there's the kicking of the tires, like when (and I still laugh when I think of this) he, himself, admitted on (probably with Ralph) a show that he did contact Gary Sheffield, and said that he asked him if he wanted more than $10M, and when Gary did, that was the end of Sabean's interest (at the time, it was widely known that he was going to get way above $10M; he ended up getting $13M per season from the Yankees; I'm laughing still :^)obsessivegiantscompulsivehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11362706004246875823noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23735245.post-72129687490754796132007-12-11T17:54:00.000-08:002007-12-11T17:54:00.000-08:00Martin, this is not in response to this post, so I...Martin, this is not in response to this post, so I apologize. But, Ann Killion had an article in this morning's Mercury News to the effect there doesn't appear to be any plan in place for the Giants. I am definitely not a fan of Ann Killion and there are many criticisms I could level at her, even for this one article. I think it is kind of taking chjeap shot to assess Sabean's "plan" or his "winter progress" in early December. But having said that, I am not sure that Killion doesn't have a point. You and I have been laboring under the belief that Sabean has a plan: pitching, speed, defense. So, I ask you, have you heard ANY news that would lead you to believe a) there is a plan, b) this Winter is not, in the words of the critics, "business as usual?"<BR/> Whose names have we heard? A. Jones (surprising), Rolen, Rowand, Matsui. And several more. I have not, that I recall, heard a single rumor that would indicate Sabean has had serious discussions with another team about a young propsect, especially an IF prospect, say a Zobrist or an Encarnacion, etc, etc. So far I am not seeing even a hint that there is a plan, or more accurately, the plan that I thought was obvious is THE plan: I see no commitmment to our young players, especially the OFs. Instead, I hear rumors that perhaps 2, TWO, more veteran OFs may be brought in. Let's just say, at a minimum, I'm perplexed. Your take?allfrankhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03603053163603458876noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23735245.post-54296722628102440952007-12-10T19:23:00.000-08:002007-12-10T19:23:00.000-08:00Boof,I think Hillenbrand is about as close to Rios...Boof,<BR/><BR/>I think Hillenbrand is about as close to Rios as Accardo is to Lincecum. In otherwords it ain't just Hillenbrand that ain't no Rios, Accardo ain't no Lincecum either.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23735245.post-42979849725278407092007-12-10T17:35:00.000-08:002007-12-10T17:35:00.000-08:00I do not agree with your paralell to the Accardo/H...I do not agree with your paralell to the Accardo/Hillenbrand trade. We gave up a young pitcher with an upside for a player that really sucked and had been tossed out by a few teams already. Rios is certainly not the equivalent of Hillengarbage. You are getting a player with very real talent that is just entering his prime. Not comparable at all.<BR/><BR/>Having said that, Rios is not enough to trade Lincecum for. If Sabean does make this trade, then he really will prove that he was wrogn when he stated that "I am not an idiot." We all know that he is an idiot based on how he has mismanaged the Giants organization these last number of years. This move would cement it.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23735245.post-66363327128662201532007-12-10T14:51:00.000-08:002007-12-10T14:51:00.000-08:00Very well said. It would be a panic move made out...Very well said. It would be a panic move made out of desperation to trade Lincecum for Rios. Panic is never a good basis for any decision and almost never produces a good result.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23735245.post-5362208106250834032007-12-10T13:55:00.000-08:002007-12-10T13:55:00.000-08:00If this clown Sabean trades away Lincecum for a ve...If this clown Sabean trades away Lincecum for a very unproven Rios then he needs to be fired on the spot. That is all I have to say about that.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com