tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23735245.post6236052287742953556..comments2024-02-23T20:49:09.057-08:00Comments on obsessivegiantscompulsive: Your 2013 Giants: Draft Resultsobsessivegiantscompulsivehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/11362706004246875823noreply@blogger.comBlogger8125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23735245.post-25173778419736798122013-06-30T20:15:25.233-07:002013-06-30T20:15:25.233-07:00Yeah, the Giants are doing pretty good drafting in...Yeah, the Giants are doing pretty good drafting in the back of the draft with the other playoff teams, I agree, as the list put together could be our future rotation in a few years, we are loaded, not quite for bear, but darn well considering.obsessivegiantscompulsivehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11362706004246875823noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23735245.post-16667740124791776742013-06-30T20:13:12.050-07:002013-06-30T20:13:12.050-07:00Thank you for your comments DrB, as always, good p...Thank you for your comments DrB, as always, good points. obsessivegiantscompulsivehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11362706004246875823noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23735245.post-32884909663124676942013-06-29T23:08:18.810-07:002013-06-29T23:08:18.810-07:00Don't forget the sleeper of sleepers, Joe Biag...Don't forget the sleeper of sleepers, Joe Biagini!DrBGiantsfanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10699322384438591979noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23735245.post-68260151127095730222013-06-29T17:19:13.995-07:002013-06-29T17:19:13.995-07:00The pitching is looking very nice.
Kyle Crick by ...The pitching is looking very nice.<br /><br />Kyle Crick by himself for sure.<br />Kickham/Surkamp as advanced grind through arms.<br />Heston/Fitzgerald as long shot fill-ins.<br />Stratton/Agosta as advanced college arms (who might be at low-A but doing well there)<br />Mejia/Escobar as solid young lefties.<br />Flores/Mella as solid young righties.<br />Ty Blach as a reminder not to criticize the Giants.<br />And Blackburn as the sleeper/hype/sleeper.<br /><br />That's 13 arms! I'd add my favorite scrapper Snodgrass. And wait to see what happens on the IFA front to go along with the new draftees. Oh, and young Chris Marlowe with a good heater and the best curve in the system.Shankbonehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04803824507120403397noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23735245.post-65901308632053701422013-06-28T17:38:50.221-07:002013-06-28T17:38:50.221-07:00I would add that in addition to the "big six&...I would add that in addition to the "big six" pitching prospects you and Shankbone mention, the Giants have a very nice second tier of pitching prospects(well, maybe third tier. Kyle Crick is in a tier by himself right now). There is Kickham and now Surkamp at AAA level. Farther down, there is Kendry Flores who is having a nice season and Keury Mella in Rookie Ball. Don't forget Ty Blach in San Jose either.DrBGiantsfanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10699322384438591979noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23735245.post-61669936806312089032013-06-28T17:35:30.947-07:002013-06-28T17:35:30.947-07:00I would think Vander Tuig should sign for close to...I would think Vander Tuig should sign for close to slot. The Giants should then be able to combine the $!50 K that they are under slot with $230 K that they can go over without losing a draft pick plus the $100 K slot money to offer Arenado about $480 K. I would guess that gets it done.<br /><br />If the Giants get that done, then it's a pretty sweet draft in my book. I would love it if they could somehow get the 6'9" pitcher from Canada signed too. DrBGiantsfanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10699322384438591979noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23735245.post-32960494394083321292013-06-28T12:18:58.052-07:002013-06-28T12:18:58.052-07:00Hopefully BCraw can help recruit Vander Tuig, or b...Hopefully BCraw can help recruit Vander Tuig, or be the example that entices him to sign. Of course, helps that Giants known for developing pitchers, even ones who don't have blazing fastballs.<br /><br />Yeah, isn't that a tired meme? The Giants current has four starters who they developed themselves, Posey, Sandoval, Belt, Crawford, who have been hitting well this season or better. They don't get credit for selecting Posey by a certain breed of Naysayers, even though many of them would have selected Smoak instead (ironic, eh?). <br /><br />And Belt, it is not like other late round picks making good, he wasn't good until the Giants changed his whole approach around. If that is not a sign of a good org knowing hitting, I don't know what is. <br /><br />Also, people seem to think Posey was always considered this good. He wasn't. When he was drafted, he was considered a good hitter ... for a catcher. It was his all around skills, particularly his expected Gold Glove skills, that made him valuable. Nobody at the time of the draft would consider him a viable cleanup hitter, except maybe Giants fans used to see Molina hit there. <br /><br />Ironically, Wieters was considered the big homerun hitter who could hit for average too, they seem have basically traded with each other their expected MLB profile, as Wieters is an OK hitter with power with Gold Glove defense (though Posey was profiled as hitter with OK power with gold glove ability). <br /><br />Of course, Cousins apparently killed Posey's ability to be a gold glove catcher, as he's been barely average defensively by the advanced fielding stats since he returned from that horrendous injury that Cousins stupidly laid on him.<br /><br />The Posey we drafted but without gold glove defense would not have been that valuable, and probably would not have be very valuable at any other up the middle position, but the Posey we got today can move to any spot on the field and be a plus hitter there for us. <br /><br />I understand not giving the Giants the entire credit there, as Posey did have skills, but when you have a number of examples - Posey, Belt, and also Crawford, who was and is viewed as a defense first SS - then you have to start at least thinking, "maybe the team knows something about hitting that they can teach". Also, they recognized that Torres was making a big change to the way that he was hitting, else why take him on that season? They have good hitting scouts as well as pitching scouts.<br /><br />I'm excited about the youth too. That is a solid 6 of pitching prospects, we might be struggling this season, but these guys will start coming up in the coming years and solidify the rotation again. <br /><br />And good point we got college guys for now and high school guys for later. Seems like they have a plan, no? And they appear to be executing on it. <br /><br />Given Barr's ambitions to be GM, I'm worried he will get poached, particularly by LAD after this season, but he has put the farm system into really good shape (that's probably why he's already in a scout's Hall of Fame) and for that I thank him profusely. It is hard enough to have a nice stream of potentials rising up the farm (see Royals, Pirates, Orioles, even Rays, pre-new GM) when you are losing a ton and picking up very good prospects high in the draft, but to do it while you are winning, as Barr has done, has really given the Giants a huge boost, I can't imagine where we would be the past few seasons without Belt or Crawford contributing, and his draft pieces were key in picking up Pence.<br /><br />Yeah, in the IFA, the Giants have not really gone large there with pitching, so I agree that they probably will share the wealth this year and pick up a bunch of pitching, since they probably have a full cupboard of position players in the minors, heard any good rumors yet tying any player to the Giants?obsessivegiantscompulsivehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11362706004246875823noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23735245.post-24051217273950562112013-06-26T14:30:24.745-07:002013-06-26T14:30:24.745-07:00VanderTuig has a great excuse for not signing. A ...VanderTuig has a great excuse for not signing. A tad busy being the winning pitcher in the clinching game of the championship. He looked good too. He's a pitch to contact guy but he has a nice change and a nice curve. It'll be harder to do in pro ball but he made a good hitting lineup look pretty silly. Plus he's helped out by that stadium. UCLA plays Giant baseball - carve out runs, play good defense and pitch!<br /><br />Can the Giants develop some more hitters? Going to be fun tracking Gustavo/Javier/Arroyo/Jones. Even if they are swings and misses, they are also honest efforts to compete to the max. That's all I really think you can ask for. The IFA guys were nice surprises, at a point where I was a little down on the Giants spending efforts. The Arroyo/Jones picks are regarded as overdrafts (with some thinking the Giants should have received concessions for said overdraft). But for me, they symbolize willingness to go spend, develop as they compete. That is a far cry from the 90s-early 00s.<br /><br />Just think, the last HS hitter drafted in the first is Tony Torcato. Tidrow wanted local boy CC Sabathia (who was most likely a better hitter than Torcato as well)... That 1998 draft cracks me up because eventually the Gints snagged a ton of those guys to help win in 2010: Burrell, Rowand, Huff, Torres, Lopez! 5 of 25.<br /><br />I'm excited about the youth. Great 3 headed pitching monster with Crick/Blackburn/Mejia. Got the college arms Stratton/Agosta/Kickham as well. You have Brown/Panik/Susac and now you have your HS hitting guys as well.<br /><br />Looking forward to seeing what the efforts were in the IFA this year. I"m thinking its pitching because they were light in that department in the draft.Shankbonehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04803824507120403397noreply@blogger.com