tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23735245.post3194954555994141455..comments2024-02-23T20:49:09.057-08:00Comments on obsessivegiantscompulsive: 2012 Draft: 22 Signings So Farobsessivegiantscompulsivehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/11362706004246875823noreply@blogger.comBlogger6125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23735245.post-27782762596525110382012-06-14T16:28:27.745-07:002012-06-14T16:28:27.745-07:00OK, the "general" they, obviously you ca...OK, the "general" they, obviously you can speak for yourself.obsessivegiantscompulsivehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11362706004246875823noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23735245.post-70757160387340058182012-06-14T16:11:16.462-07:002012-06-14T16:11:16.462-07:00OCG - just saw this. I'm the one who called i...OCG - just saw this. I'm the one who called it a lowball, so I guess you are saying I don't understand how business negotiations go.Shankbonehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04803824507120403397noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23735245.post-32754991740947058182012-06-14T11:10:45.653-07:002012-06-14T11:10:45.653-07:00Based on the numbers available on Perfect Game, an...Based on the numbers available on Perfect Game, and the data on BA's draft database, I can deduce that Joseph Kurrasch signed for slot, $134,500.obsessivegiantscompulsivehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11362706004246875823noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23735245.post-15924952618832142232012-06-13T22:06:34.332-07:002012-06-13T22:06:34.332-07:00They are calling it a fiasco because they don'...They are calling it a fiasco because they don't understand how business negotiations go. They already feel that the Giants are being cheap so they frame this as a fiasco because the Giants "lowballed" Shilo early on and what not, then ended up paying over slot in the 9th round when he would have been around slot in the fifth round.<br /><br />Now, I don't know what happened or what their preferences are, but to me, it could also be viewed as the Giants preferring the players they drafted in the rounds they did, and they were hoping to pick up Shilo at some point, but not over the guys they had selected already. They then decided to pull the trigger, because it is not that much money.<br /><br />But their view is that by being penurious, the Giants almost lost this player that they clearly liked.<br /><br />What they don't realize is that every team has a lot of different prospects that they like and are negotiating with, and it is a volume business, if not one, then the other, and then you move on when you lose one or another on your list.<br /><br />And at $200,000, that's not a very high probability prospect, he could certainly beat the odds and reach the majors, but the odds are totally against him.<br /><br />But that is the beauty of baseball, when somebody beats the oods, like Ryan Vogelsong or any prospect who was drafted way back in the draft and makes it to become a regular.obsessivegiantscompulsivehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11362706004246875823noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23735245.post-33425384720532722572012-06-13T17:31:55.263-07:002012-06-13T17:31:55.263-07:00Also, I'm not sure why the McCall draft and si...Also, I'm not sure why the McCall draft and signing is still being referred to in some corners of the internet as a "fiasco." I mean, they got him signed for an amount that won't cost them draft pick penalties even if they are not able to go below slot with other picks. Yeah, if several picks 2-7 end up not signing because of it, then it might end up being a fiasco, but again this is much ado about absolutely nothing in my book.DrBGiantsfanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10699322384438591979noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23735245.post-32573822016696054842012-06-13T14:41:25.503-07:002012-06-13T14:41:25.503-07:00The link to the newpaper article about McCall was ...The link to the newpaper article about McCall was in interesting read. The higher up who was obssessing about McCasland had to be Sabes himself. I'm a Sabes supporter, but the guy has extremely thin skin and a very long memory.DrBGiantsfanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10699322384438591979noreply@blogger.com